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Christ cannot make me un-gay [reparation: # 48]

Christians owe(s) Gays & Lesbians

Christ cannot make me un-gay. I was born gay and it took me 18 years to realize it. It took me another 2 years before I came out. For all of those 20 years I attended Church regularly, was a youth leader, and was a Boy Scout. After I came out my minister spoke out against me, members of the congregation stayed away from me, and finally my parents disowned me. This is when I got involved in the ex-gay movement aka the exodus movement. I attended the Courage Community, Love in Action, Exodus International, Homosexuals Anonymous, and did work with Positive Alternatives to Homosexuality (PATH). Through counseling, prayer, and other techniques I had Christ take away my sins. I even had a girlfriend. She was gentle with me and we took it slowly. And as hugging gave way to kissing we soon began petting. That’s when things began to change. She wanted to keep her Christian vows and remain a virgin. In her mind she could remain a virgin if we didn’t have vaginal intercourse so she asked me to have anal sex, like somehow God and Jesus and the Virgin Mary won’t mind. But when I entered her ass it made me think of my first (and only) gay lover. I couldn’t take it anymore and ended the relationship and returned to Christianity through a gay church. A Church that accepts me for who I am and allows same-sex marriages. Christianity is an interpretation of God’s word and this is how we want to interpret it.

My girlfriend got pregnant from me though I never ever entered her properly. It seems that immaculate conception can happen. So be careful where you come. And be careful who comes to you. I lost years of my life trying to be un-gay.


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anonymous: This has got to be one of the weirdist stories I have read. It sounds like you had a girlfriend and that you even enjoyed physical interaction with her.

Does this mean that your bi or that being gay is really choice? I always though of homosexuality as a genetic abnormality that someone cannot control.

Interesting story at at rate.

anonymous: Nobody owes anything to queers. You are the way you are because you‘re unfit to reproduce so nature has caused you to be attracted to your own gender. But if you really want to blame someone for your suffering, blame the Africans for starting HIV/AIDS. Sodomy‘s still the #1 way for the transmission of HIV

anonymous: white males started the spread of hiv/aids

anonymous: It‘s a joke to think that christians in general owe gays because of the christian beliefs. Christianity clearly states that Homosexuality, Bisexuality, Transexuality and other similar acts as such, are just plain wrong and is a serious sin. And it is a shame that there are "churches" compromising there beliefs and rewriting the words of the bible, that is greater then blasphemy.

Any way it is prophesied that these things will come to pass in the end times, when people will call evil good and good evil.

christian from bk: I do not agree with any derogatory names or hateful actions that a lot of people have said or done to gays because two wrongs don‘t make a right. I think that this issue should be delt with in a civilized manner. I also firmly believe that gays are not born that way, there are things as a child you pick up and learn. Its like saying there are born killers and thats definitly not true. your environment effects your outlooks and persectives in life. Honestly as a christian I do not look at gays in hate but love. I sadly dislike their ways but them as a human being I respect. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I can not force any of my beliefs on any one because Christ does not operate that way. Everyone has the freedom to choose what directions they want to take in life, weither good or bad. All I can do is warn and share the wisdom God has given me to others willing to listen. I think that those who are going to churches that accept gay practices are very far from the truth, have strayed from the faith and been turned unto false doctrines of devils. Christianity is not mans interpretation of the bible but the Holy Spirit‘s interpretation of God‘s word. That is the key mistake many people have made and that mistake brings confusion. And God is not the author of confusion. Seek the truth because God is real and His word is law. There is a way that seems right unto a man, but the end of it is death.

anonymous: "I also firmly believe that gays are not born that way, there are things as a child you pick up and learn. Its like saying there are born killers and thats definitly not true."

Yep, that‘s a christian for you. You firmly believe the things that suit your worldview no matter what the evidence. It‘s looking more certain every year that yes, people are "born gay". And it‘s quite certain that some people (a small minority of murderers) are "born killers". They have identified genetic defects that make it impossible for them to empathize with another.

It‘s creepy, even to me, but the truth is, in the "heredity verses environment" argument, environment loses nearly every time they can conduct a repeatable scientific study. Twins separated and adopted at-birth into very different environments still turn out to be amazingly similar people. Children of abusers (drugs, violence, whatever) tend to grow up to be abusers themselves...but only their offspring, not their adopted children!

Environment does matter, though. There are many of these genetic traits that only manifest themselves in a particular environment. For an obvious example, if you‘re genetically predisposed to be a coccaine addict, but your environment is such that you never try coccaine, it won‘t happen.


anonymous: I think that some people should sit back and analyse the hipocracy of some christian beliefs, and also the confusion between numerous beliefs within the faith: you profess to accept and be kind, generous and forgiving to anyone and everyone, but look at some of these statements. Not a very christian outlook... It doesn‘t matter if someone is born a homosexual or made that way, you should, by your own faith, accept and ‘forgive‘ what you see as sin.


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